Thursday, June 12, 2008

"Dating Voyance" - a review

Product: Dating Voyance
Available at: http://www.datingvoyance.com
Cost: $47.00

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Pros: If you've picked up a few seduction "tricks", and wonder why you're getting irregular results, this product will provide you with some clues as to why this is happening. May provide more experienced seduction artists with validation of their newfound understanding.

Cons: Lacks concrete examples that would be necessary for beginning seduction artists to understand the principles it puts forth. Provides a summary of well-established seduction lore, but presents nothing that is "new" to the community. Most of this material can be learned free elsewhere, albeit with more work. Sides squarely with standard seduction theory that a woman should be seduced before considering a relationship.

Full Review: In the seduction community, it's been said that there are two basic types of teachers. One set of teachers works from "The inside out" - essentially, teaching it's members the proper mental attitudes involved in working with women. The "inside out" teachers hope that, if people develop the proper mental attitudes, they will automatically begin to behave in a way that will make them more attractive.

The other set of teachers believe in working from "the outside in". They begin by telling their students the "right" way to behave. These teachers hope that, if students behave properly, that they will become more successful, and that proper mental attitudes will start to develop as a result of their increasing success.

Of course, this is an oversimplification. However, as a result of this schism, there are many students who have learned some "outside in" tricks, but are having difficulty maintaining attraction.

This product may serve to fill a gap for men who are beginning to have this difficulty. It is designed to answer the question, "Okay, once I've attracted someone's attention, how do I maintain and enhance that attraction?" And it focuses squarely on the "inside out" side of the equation. Essentially, this program provides guidance to help men understand the concept of "The frame" - the internal mental attitudes that are necessary to maintain attraction. These principles are not new to the seduction community - but I do agree that they are necessary for success.

This product does provide a fairly good exposition of theory. However, it's been said that, "Theory without practice is useless, and practice without theory creates chaos". And, although it does explain theory, it does not seem to give adequate examples as to specific ways that this theory should change people's behavior toward women, or examples of specific common problems solved by application of the theories espoused. As such, this manual is likely to go "over the heads" of people who are not already beginning to understand the principles that it espouses.

So, that's how it might be helpful for folks who've begun an "outside in" journey. But is it good for someone who is new to seduction?

Unfortunately, I'd have to answer, "No." It provides little to no advice on approaching women, or generating initial interest. There is a "bonus" item that discusses online dating, but, unfortunately, it contains almost no material that would be useful for readers of this blog. It often talks about situations where someone would need to "build attraction or comfort", but does not explain what this actually means. These elements, in my humble opinion, are crucial in order for beginners to begin to improve. However, they are not addressed in this product. This isn't a problem, per se - no product will fill the needs of every reader - but beginners should know that this product will not stand alone in their seduction education. Nor would I recommend it as a first text.

Also, relationship-minded men who do not believe in the dogma that "A woman needs to be seduced before she'll consider becoming your girlfriend" will find material that they can use, but will have to learn on their own when an inflexible frame may lead to difficulties.

In summary, this product may be a good "next step" for seduction artists who have already made their first steps in their "outer game", but are still having trouble maintaining levels of attraction. The material here is not new to the seduction community, and can be gathered from free resources... but this format may be helpful for some. However, it's lack of concrete examples will leave many readers confused as to how it's principles can be applied in "real life" situations.

But, perhaps, with continued study, and continued "field work", a dedicated student might create their own "practical applications" manual.

Maybe.

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